Gooeyduk wrote: 2019-02-01 16:55:53
I used to compete in aerobatics and was practicing for a contest one day and landed at Burlington Wisconsin to get fuel. I paid for 10 gallons which turned out to include 4 gallons of water. The engine laid an egg at 300 ft and a Pitts Special glides like a streamlined brick forcing me to land in ready to harvest corn. I’m now into building twin engine seaplanes which you can check out at Gweduck.com
Gooeyduk, you aren't Gooeyduk, really, are you...
I'm calling you out, right here and now. You're actually Sean D. Tucker. Admit it.
sassie wrote: 2019-02-10 07:45:44
Sense reading all these post, i was thinking what if you put a little vinegar in the water ,would that help the bacteria if all the water took its time to exit or some stayed in ???
sassie
was hopeful for a reply as i tryed this...don't want to harm myself...
Karen and Jono, I waited to try the irrigation trick until I could stay home all day to deal with any surprises. As luck would have it Seattle had a couple of days of heavy snow that kept everyone home, so I started with the Fleets enema squirter bottle while in the shower. The water just fell out without accomplishing anything. Next I tried an enema bag with the accompanying nozzle which did manage to purge some mucus. The rest of that day I had no further mucus discharge and the two subsequent days were were equally successful. I was working on a way to insert rose pedals up my bum to mitigate the smell of the mucus, but now hopefully I can end that project.
It sounds like you achieved a productive flushing of old and retained mucus/cellular material from your deactivated lower colon.
Your task moving forward is to periodically flush the rectal stump. The frequency can vary from person to person - once a month to once a week, to 2-3 times a week. The frequency of rectal stump care will depend on how active the intestinal mucosa is in secreting mucus, serous fluids, and normal cellular turn-over/shedding.
Typically, the deactivated lower colon and rectal stump will atrophy and shrink with the passage of time - and produce fewer secretions.
Typical is not always typical, however. Be mindful of disuse colitis/proctitis in the months (and years) ahead. Disuse colitis/proctitis occurs when the deactivated segment of intestine becomes inflamed, dry, and irritated due to the lack of short-chain fatty acids and other polymers found in fecal matter that provide a nourishing effect. Bacterial overgrowth ensues. Symptoms are a low grade fever, achy low back/flank pain, nagging feeling of pelvic pressure, general malaise. A short course of antibiotics can be called for.
You took opportunity of a rare snow-day in Seattle to flush your stump. Give yourself credit for creative use of your time. Here in Portland, we had only a dusting of snow. Photos of the snowfall in Seattle’s hillsides glanced the front page of the morning newspaper, The Oregonian.
Karen
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The caution with overly frequent rectal stump flushing, as I mentioned earlier, is the issue of retention of moisture and subsequent bacterial overgrowth - which adds to one’s personal distress.
Listen to your body. It will tell you what it needs. Be flexible with how often you flush your rectal stump.
Karen
Hi, I'm new to this board and have a similar but odd circumstance. I have a loop colostomy, 3 years post surgery. Today I had a colonoscopy and in order to make sure I was clean in the non-working end of my colon they prescribed taking 2 Fleets enemas. I was only able to get 1/2 of 1 enema in me due to the pain it caused. Some of the enema flushed out along with a small amount of mucus. An hour or so later I discovered my collection bag/device was leaking, although the bag had very little in it. As I was putting on a new bag/device, I discovered liquid running down by belly and onto my thigh. There was NOTHING coming out of my stoma at that time. It was coming from the opening around my stoma. Later that day I discovered leakage again. This time it was 100% mucus and again coming from AROUND my stoma. Today's endoscopic doctor was totally STUMPED. Has anyone else out there ever experienced leakage around their stoma???
Welcome to our Discussion Board & thank you for your post. I have a conventional Brooke's ileostomy (no colon remaining) that (after a revision in 1985 to correct the original flat stoma) protrudes well above skin level. And am unfamiliar with the specific challenges presented by a loop colostomy. Since your endoscopy physician had no answer, have you considered contacting an ostomy nurse? They have specialized training in leakage problems & see patients with many different types of stomas. Your GI doctor or your surgeon may be able to make a referral for you.
In addition to this discussion board, the UOAA also provides many resources through their website. Here is a link regarding ostomy caregivers. https://www.ostomy.org/find-an-ostomy-nurse/
Again, thank you for joining us. And please continue to check back. Hopefully, someone who knows about your type of ostomy will respond soon.
I am not sure what is the reason for our discharge like this, I am seeing a doctor about it who also has no clue. I know people in my ostomy group that have had their ostomy's many years and do not have any discharge. Confusing to me. I know that dairy products and fats make mine worse and over active. I have an over active sphincter that causes me fear to go anywhere. I think that my mucus is from an inflamed colon wall and maybe polyps,. We have moisture naturally there. I don't think it ever really dries out. I had an ostomy nurse tell me that we have mucus lining in our colons so that when we poop it has liquid to help it slide out. When we get our ostomies we still have the mucus lining but no long the output and that is what is causing the mucus discharge. Makes sense to me, and mine is inflamed so hence it it bloody a lot. I have tried the enema's and have only had a little success, it does clean it out and helps with the smell but it doesn't stop the mucus. I had a barium enema to see if I had a fistula that might be causing the mucus. there was none, so now I am waiting for a scope of my stump so see if I have polyps and what it looks like and if we can see why it bleeds so much. Mine sometimes comes out in little balls but usually just slime.
A brand new ostomate since Dec 4, 2023. And already in trouble with a mucus situation. Why didn't anyone tell me about this? Thank heavens for this forum and this particular thread.
Just tried an enema and it worked...but only partly. No, I cannot defecate and why the surgeon didn't take this into consideration is beyond me.
What to do next? Another enema (not normally two in one day.) or wait a couple of hours. Last time I had an enema was about 4 or 5 years ago in a hospital setting. Thought I'd passed it all. Apparently not. About 1 /12 hours later I was suddenly flooded, twice, with what seemed like gallons of enema fluid. No warning. No nothing. The nurse when I told her said she'd never heard of that before. Yes, I'm scared.
And two days later and one more useless Fleet type enema and there's still no solution and the only help I have been given is being told to go to Emergency and sit there for 8 hours only probably to be sent home without any help at all. What am I to do? My GP isn't there today...not that he would help. The surgeon doesn't help. The nurses, VON,(Victorian Order of Nurses) can't help.
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