Revel Ostomy Products -- Avoid Pancaking?

[Diane C]

Hi All,

Just heard about this. Asked about a free sample. Am willing to buy it to see if it works. Has anyone heard of this? https://revelostomy.com/pages/the-tech This company even provides an upbeat playlist to listen to!

[Shamrock4806]

I haven't had any pancaking issue with my Coloplast circle filter 430.

True diet has a part to play, not eating too much of something that solidifies output without mixing it with something that liquefies it more so it flows into the bag.

[GeorgeS]

Hi All,

Just heard about this. Asked about a free sample. Am willing to buy it to see if it works. Has anyone heard of this? https://revelostomy.com/pages/the-tech This company even provides an upbeat playlist to listen to!

I'm interested! Currently using the Brava lubricating deodorant since Byram had supply issues with the Hollister Adapt odor eliminator and lubricant. I like the smell better. However this Revel one has a long tube that is helpful for one piece systems.

I've always used two piece closed end systems and added the lub/deotorante from the top and rubbed it upward in the pouch just shy of the filter on the Hollister pouches. What I always wondered though is, do they evaporate causing condensation in the filter? I tested an open ended pouch this weekend and only applied the lube onece in the beginning.

[NEskier]

Interesting! Would love a review.

[Diane C]

Hi! I never received a sample. Anyone else? Guess I'll have to order and pay for it.

Shamrock, it's great that you have no more pancaking. I'll have to look into the product you use. I am hoping that Revel will work. Once I try it, I will let you all know.

[Mara]

Why don't you contact them again - I just looked at their site and they offer a free sample....maybe you didn't give them enough time?? Annoying to deal with them if they don't do what they say...I don't have much patience for stuff like that....

[Bob Webtech]

Revel is sending samples to everybody who registers in UOAA's Run for Resilience 5k series. So maybe they're getting low on samples to send out.

[Shamrock4806]

Shamrock, it's great that you have no more pancaking. I'll have to look into the product you use. I am hoping that Revel will work. Once I try it, I will let you all know.

My pancaking caused leaks was solved for me by a combination of factors:

Diet control, learning what foods make me more fluid or not and create a balance (I simply drink a cup of coffee to rev up and become more fluid) I also only eat during the day as to be sitting or standing much more to let gravity do it's thing. At night laying down thus more likely to pancake, thus little or no food, no dinner. Just a small snack. Less dumps that way also, I get my sleep.

A bag with a filter in between

A much more stringent adhesion attention around the stoma, skin protectant, a thin layer of very sticky no sting paste, a protective sheet (more paste) and a belt. It's so strong it even handles overfilled bags. It tries forcing it's way under the sheet but that sheet bonds even stronger to the skin the longer it's on and does a pretty good job at resisting a blow out.

Now that I'm using a new method of using the protective sheet as a wafer basically due to a belly fold it's become super important that the adhesion around the stoma is solid as now there is a valley there and it collects fluid instead of it all just running to the bottom of the bag.

So it's a lot more than just a bag with a better filter in my opinion, a combination of factors need to be addressed, improvements are welcome so I'll be checking it out of course because I'm in the market for a new appliance.

Oh my bad, I thought we were talking about filters and bags with pancaking issues, seems this is just a lubricant/deodorant that causes output to flow better.

Wouldn't work in my belly fold situation unfortunately, but likely smell nicer.

It could come in handy when I'm mobile and output sticks to the bag though, so it might be beneficial. I home I typically rinse with Tums dissolved in water and leave a little inside to neutralize digestive enzymes.

It's good to have options. Yes I'm a little off my rocker..

[Diane C]

Shamrock -- Yes, I definitely need to work on diet. I'm an emotional eater. Ugh. I tend to eat when I get home from an event -- way too late. That won't work. I'll try just to hydrate then without food. Or I have to quit some of my activities or ensure I eat enough earlier before bed time. These changes are not easy. I never had all this pancaking and leaking with a colostomy. I got an ileostomy in 2015 and have been frustrated!

Bob -- oh! I didn't realize the samples were given out to those in the Run. But I heard NOTHING from the makers of Revel. Not a word. Today, I filled out the sample sheet again and asked how to buy the product if no samples are available. I'll update folks when and if I can! Bob -- did you hear reactions from any of the ostomates? Thank you.

[Shamrock4806]

I'm working on the concept that with an illeostmy, leaks are always occurring and it just depends upon preparation, stress and just plain luck how long a bag lasts before needing a change.

Now it's quite possible that there could be differences in what is determined a leak.

Leaks that are tiny and burning, but do not leak output outside the containment system and of course those that do.

I haven't had any major blowout in many months, just tiny burning leaks.

So I'm neutralizing the enzyme responsible with a higher alkalinity wash thus hopefully not needing to do a bag change for each time a little leak presents itself.

[Diane C]

Received my samples this last week which has been super busy. Will try it and review.

Diane C.

[Diane C]

I helped at and attended my neighbor's 1st bday party all day yesterday. Used Revel before going. If you use it, don't spray in too much. It's quite oily and easily can pour out the bottom of your pouch if it's not closed. It did seem to work pretty well. Will try again this week. Stay tuned.

[Shamrock4806]

Shamrock -- Yes, I definitely need to work on diet. I'm an emotional eater. Ugh. I tend to eat when I get home from an event -- way too late. That won't work.

You mentioned in another thread your having leaks at night.

You can follow my recipe for diet success and then explore after that.

1: Eat a few small portions nutritious meals only during am (after a shower and bag change if needed) to about 2 pm. Then only very small cookie small snacks afterwards just to keep hunger at bay. Cookies usually have a little fat in them which will help you sleep. (Also puts on weight so watch for that)

2: To have a more liquid like output which is easier to dump (any garbage can will do) and you can be off in a flash before anyone even notices. Try eating plain or lightly grilled (never fried or rotisserie) juicy soft meats combined with a little plain white rice, pasta, bread or mashed potatoes ( about 1 cup of each only at a sitting). Drink V8 juice (and fruit juices) for your veggies etc. as it won't produce solids in the output. Many other things are good also, greek yogurt, etc that will be liquid instead of solid.

3: Avoid seafood (raw tuna and unseasoned salmon may be fine) and asparagus cause it stinks like heck. Avoid tough meats, seeds and other hard stuff that can clog.

4: Wash and rinse with Tums dissolved in water (prepare it in advance) and leave a little in the bag afterwards (about a 1/4 cup) to neutralize enzymes and the smell, also mixes with output to reduce pancaking.

As soon as you can reevaluate your appliance with your body type to see if you may need a convex + belt + barrier strips as it's much more heavy duty than just a bag + ring.

The important thing is getting a rock solid skin bond with paste or ring around the stoma FIRST before doing anything else.

This practice of applying a paste or ring to the appliance first then sticking it on is completely wrong.

It assumes that the paste or ring is going to bond well to the skin and it always doesn't but one can't tell because they just covered everything up with the wafer!