Cutting the sleeve

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Rasputin
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Cutting the sleeve

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I irrigate sitting in a kitchen chair with the bag in the toilet water, and clean the outside with a couple paper towels before waiting on the couch (in front of TV and 'net). I'm thinking of cutting down the bag, but haven't found any shared experience. I'm afraid a large, forceful return will flip the bag outta the bowl. Any suggestions?

BTW, still getting good results.

Chuck
'07 CRC sigmoid, resect., NED
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Re: Cutting the sleeve

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Sit on the toilet and cut the bag to the appropriate length.
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I don't wanna sit on the pot. I wanna kick back in the chair.
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I sit on the pot myself, sleeve open into the toilet. Though when I moved in here, first thing I did was buy a new comfy toilet seat for the long haul ;)

If I ever have my own home (not renting), another thing I'll do is add an electrical outlet beside the toilet. They are always on the other end of the cabinets.
Ewings Sarcoma: 1996; G-tube: 1997; Cecostomy: 1998-99; Colostomy: ~2000; Irrigator: 2013-
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I never discharge directly to the commode.

All of my irrigations are sitting in front of the commode with the clipped end of a full length sleeve sitting on the bottom of a garbage can on the floor in front of me. After returns I unclip and carefully discharge the sleeve to the commode, then re-infuse as necessary and repeat till done.

While this is transportable to anywhere you want to, moving around with a full sleeve would not be my choice. A laptop / tablet can sit on the back of the commode / counter and provide the evenings entertainment/ study material. A comfortable office chair on wheels is key to this technique. Rolls out and provides a dressing chair when not in use.

Also, as no technique is perfect (as far as I am aware) I would refrain from moving to more,... expensive furniture until 95% returns have been completed.

Also, keep the garbage can with a couple of inches of bleach water in the bottom and occasionally fill it up for soaking older sleeves overnight.

MikeM
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I'm another one that sits on the pot with the sleeve tucked under my leg, the end open, so that all returns go directly into the toilet...immediately. This technique also allows for me to irrigate away from home without the anxiety of looking for furniture to accommodate my needs. For me, there is enough going on that adding furniture in the bathroom just seems unnecessary, but to each their own....the only wrong way is the one that doesn't work for you!

As far as your situation, this reminds me of the time I was irrigating in a tent up in the Rockys when I was elk hunting. Yes, I irrigated in a tent for 10 days while there. It was quite the process, but effective none the less. During this process, I sat with the tail of my pouch opened into a 5 gallon bucket...much like you do in front of the toilet. The first run through was almost disastrous, because the weight of the first round of output gathered on the outside edge of the bucket and almost pulled the tail completely out of the bucket before I was able to catch it. From that point, I knew I needed to find a different solution. So, I went to the truck and found a pair of vice grip pliers which held the sleeve to the side of the bucket and kept it from pulling out when the output arrived.

So, you might want to look at using some vice grips to hold the sleeve in place by securing it to the toilet seat. Or, maybe a carpenter's clamp/large spring clamp that you can get at just about any hardware store. I bet that would hold your sleeve in place should you decide to start cutting the sleeves shorter.

Hope that helped.

David
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Thanks, espcially David. I think there's a C-clamp around here, I'll report later.
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I always irrigate sitting on a chair facing the toilet, I clip the sleeve end with a pouch clip and just let it hang over a leg. after infusion I roll up the sleeve and go about doing what I want. Then when it spews I empty it out.
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