A neat trick to determine if you have a leak!

[Shamrock4806]

This may not always work as first thought, apparently one can still feel some temperature difference despite not having a small leak. But it may help.

So if your washing/rinsing your bag on the toilet like I do (water mainly, two drops of antibacterial dish soap occasionally) then there is this neat trick to determine if one has a small leak or not.

Apparently the stoma doesn't have much in the way of nerves, so if your using cold water rinsing if your bag, you can gently (don't squeeze) or lay down to get this cold water up around the stoma area.

If you feel cold, you may have a leak.

Now let's say your stoma is still pretty active and you want to wait until it dies down some before taking a shower and doing a bag change.

Well you can add either a little antibacterial dish soap or predissolved antacids in water into the bag and keep it up around the stoma. This will help neutralize the enzymes by altering it's desired pH levels so it stops attacking the skin..I do this on road trips as it could be several hours before I can do a wafer change.

Enjoy!

[Mysticobra]

Hello.
No matter how tight a seal anyone thinks they have.
It's never going to be water tight.
I know what your trying to explain.
I have felt what you explained.
It's because the stoma goes in and out. Big and small.
Best thing to do is not rinse all the way up. Water will weaken the seal.
To an extent.
I have had an end ileo eight years.
The stool that comes out of me does not burn my skin from an end ikeo.
I see after wearing a week it has stool around my stoma on my skin.
There is no way to stop it.
I can't feel it. So I leave it alone.
I do not rinse all the way up to it.
As long as I don't get stool out from under my wafer to where
I have to change. I'm good.
I personally think there is no way not to get stool around
the stoma onto a small area of skin. The stoma just moves alot.
exposing small areas of skin.
In my case as I mentioned it doesn't burn my skin.
Not like a temporary ileo which has more acids in it.
I had one of those. Terrible.
Richard.

[Shamrock4806]

Actually I did find a method to get a nice skin bond right around the stoma.

It requires one to have a one piece, use no-sting paste and a low or flush stoma..

I put petroleum jelly on the inside bag portion through the wafer hole and when pressing the wafer on and the paste oozes over the stoma, just make sure it doesn't block the stoma hole or completely cover the wafer hole.

Since paste won't stick to the stoma nor the bag, what happens is the output will erode away the oozed out paste and combined with the stoma protruding, leaves a nice clean cured edge of paste right around the stoma.

It's because paste requires time to set and with uncured paste right next to the stoma erodes it or pushes it away some from the skin. Leaving a small area of skin exposed.

Also with an Ileostomy ones output can be extremely watery so it really doesn't matter if it's output or fresh water.

Thing is since the water can be made cold, can feel if there is a leak or not.

However I'm finding it's not perfect, the cold can be felt even if there isn't a leak. I'm working on it.