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I am trying to find alternatives to the catheter I have been using to intubate my Koch pouch. If you have a Koch pouch, please let me know what works for you.
Thanks, Linda
Trying to find alternative catheter for Koch pouch
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Linda
You don't mention which one you use.
Marlen, Medina, and Mentor all have 30fr. catheters for continent ostomies. They are available through www.continentostomystore.com .
Marlen has a bullet (round) tip with two holes on the side. This was the one I was given at Cleveland Clinic when I had my Kpouch just done.
Mentor and Medina have kess than a rounded tip. But the tip has a hole and there are two holes on the side.
It's a preference.
Hope this helps
You don't mention which one you use.
Marlen, Medina, and Mentor all have 30fr. catheters for continent ostomies. They are available through www.continentostomystore.com .
Marlen has a bullet (round) tip with two holes on the side. This was the one I was given at Cleveland Clinic when I had my Kpouch just done.
Mentor and Medina have kess than a rounded tip. But the tip has a hole and there are two holes on the side.
It's a preference.
Hope this helps
Thanks for the info, lesson.
I am using the Medena curved catheter but my supplier is not carrying it any more; only the straight. I thought I would research what my options are at this time as it looks like what I have been using for the last 14 years is no longer available. I will check out the Marlen and Mentor catheters.
Thanks again for the help.
Linda
I am using the Medena curved catheter but my supplier is not carrying it any more; only the straight. I thought I would research what my options are at this time as it looks like what I have been using for the last 14 years is no longer available. I will check out the Marlen and Mentor catheters.
Thanks again for the help.
Linda
Medena curved catheter
I don't have a Kock pouch but if you goggle "Medena curved catheter" a lot of sites come up.
Kock Pouch Catheter
I use a Weber and Judd Catheter, 29 French, bullet end with 3 hole slots and it is very flexible. Weber and Judd is in Rochester, Minnesota and it is the catheter I was sent home with with my Kock Pouch from the Mayo Clinic back in 1978. I love this catheter, it lasts 1 year and you cut it to the length you want. It costs more, but is worth it as far as I am concerned. I use my hands to like milk the catheter to empty it as I don't use water when I empty my pouch....only on rare occasion. I believe it is Weber and Judd Pharmacy. 
How to curve a straight Medina Catheter
How to create a curved Medina Catheter
I got use to using the curved Medina Catheter and was not happy when they stopped producing it. I checked out the other curved catheters on the market but didn’t think they were suitable for me. Therefore it became time to get creative. I bought a straight Medina catheter and came up with this method to put a curve into it.
The catheter is 30 CM long or about 12 inches. I acquired some ¼ inch flexible copper pipe from a building supply store and cut off a piece about 32 CM or 13 inches long. If you don’t have cutting tools ask the sales staff in the building supply store or plumbing supply store to cut the piece for you. With the proper equipment you get smooth cuts that won’t catch on the rubber of the catheter. The tricky part now is bending the copper pipe without putting a kink in it. You can ask the sales person at the store to do it which is probably easiest and best or you can do what I did. Don’t’ forget that the copper pipe is 2 CM or 1 inch longer than the catheter. Therefore it is necessary to bend the copper pipe off centre leaving the extra 2 CM on one side. I took a small food can and very slowly and carefully wrapped the copper pipe around it. After I did this someone told me that the copper tub will not kink if you put something in it first. Maybe a pipe cleaner would do the trick but I don’t know for certain, I haven’t tried it.
Now that you have a curved form, you need to curve the straight catheter. Gently slide the catheter onto the copper pipe. When you do this you can actually line the holes up where you like them. Some people don’t care about this alignment while others do have a preference. Place the joined pieces in a flat bottom container that is able to withstand boiling hot water. I used a Corning ware glass container. Fill the container with boiling hot water and let it stand over night.
In the morning you will have a curved catheter. Note: you might see some copper coloring in the tube. I did not concern myself with this since when the tube is in use, the fluids are passing out of the tube, not into my body.
Now the problem is – you don’t have anything to store the tube in. I use a plastic zip-lock snack bag. It is the perfect size for storage and helps to hold the catheter in the curved shape during the first week or so of usage. Just poke a few small cuts through it with a knife so when you seal the bag up it can collapse down to the right size.
I got use to using the curved Medina Catheter and was not happy when they stopped producing it. I checked out the other curved catheters on the market but didn’t think they were suitable for me. Therefore it became time to get creative. I bought a straight Medina catheter and came up with this method to put a curve into it.
The catheter is 30 CM long or about 12 inches. I acquired some ¼ inch flexible copper pipe from a building supply store and cut off a piece about 32 CM or 13 inches long. If you don’t have cutting tools ask the sales staff in the building supply store or plumbing supply store to cut the piece for you. With the proper equipment you get smooth cuts that won’t catch on the rubber of the catheter. The tricky part now is bending the copper pipe without putting a kink in it. You can ask the sales person at the store to do it which is probably easiest and best or you can do what I did. Don’t’ forget that the copper pipe is 2 CM or 1 inch longer than the catheter. Therefore it is necessary to bend the copper pipe off centre leaving the extra 2 CM on one side. I took a small food can and very slowly and carefully wrapped the copper pipe around it. After I did this someone told me that the copper tub will not kink if you put something in it first. Maybe a pipe cleaner would do the trick but I don’t know for certain, I haven’t tried it.
Now that you have a curved form, you need to curve the straight catheter. Gently slide the catheter onto the copper pipe. When you do this you can actually line the holes up where you like them. Some people don’t care about this alignment while others do have a preference. Place the joined pieces in a flat bottom container that is able to withstand boiling hot water. I used a Corning ware glass container. Fill the container with boiling hot water and let it stand over night.
In the morning you will have a curved catheter. Note: you might see some copper coloring in the tube. I did not concern myself with this since when the tube is in use, the fluids are passing out of the tube, not into my body.
Now the problem is – you don’t have anything to store the tube in. I use a plastic zip-lock snack bag. It is the perfect size for storage and helps to hold the catheter in the curved shape during the first week or so of usage. Just poke a few small cuts through it with a knife so when you seal the bag up it can collapse down to the right size.
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Catheter
The catheter I've used for the past 18 years is made by Astra Tech of Sweden. It's probably similar to the Medina catheter. The number on the package is M8731. I purchase mine through Choice Healthcare, Seattle, WA. They mail them to me. Their number is (206) 329-1668. The one's I buy are straight. But I find if I keep them in a small plastic sandwich bag, they'll curve over time.